Närke Kulturbryggeri – ett samtal med bryggarna Christoffer och Jesper- Del 1

Christoffer & Jesper

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Kaggen Stormaktsporter, Örebro Bitter och Rainbow Warrior är några av de ädla drycker som trollas fram på Närke Kulturbryggeri i Grenadjärstaden, Örebro.

Varför blir man bryggare, vilken musik passar bäst till Örebro Bitter och vad är planerna för bryggeriet framåt? Frågorna var många när vi fick chansen att sitta ned en eftermiddag med bryggarna Christoffer Mathiasson och Jesper Palm.

Berätta historien om Närke Kulturbryggeri, hur började allt?

Christoffer: För att inte ta hela långa historien så började Håge, Berith och Rolf genom att brygga hemma i köket.

Håge & Berith startade sen upp en hembryggarförening som för övrigt fortfarande är aktiv, efter ytterligare en tid blev lokalen vi huserar i nu ledig och då började planer smidas och ett koncept fick växa fram under ett par år.

Håge gick på en starta eget kurs och sen startade man företaget 2003 om jag minns det rätt.

2004 började man brygga, första ölen som bryggdes var Stormaktsporter men den första ölen som kom ut på puben var Örebro Bitter. Båda kommer från gamla hembryggarrecept.

Så kan man säga att det började, 2004 är första bryggåret men företaget startade 2003. Så vi har en form av 10 årsjubileum i år även om det kommersiella jubilerandet är 2014.

När kom ni två som bryggare in i bilden?

Christoffer: Jag kom in när jag pluggade bryggeriteknik via en kille som då hängde på Nynäshamns Ångbryggeri, han berättade att han kände några från Närke Kulturbryggeri i Örebro och gav mig numret.

Jag ringde och pratade in på svararen, Berith ringde tillbaks och vi pratade nån timma. Sen kom jag hit och bryggde med Håge, hängde runt 1 år innan jag efter en separation flyttade runt i Sverige och jobbade på olika ställen.

Jag hamnade sen som mältare på Tärnö där jag inte var nöjd med arbetsmiljön så jag ringde Håge och Berith igen för att kolla läget. En vecka efter det samtalet ringde Håge och frågade om jag ville komma och jobba på Närke.

Sommaren 2008 började jag på deltid, från hösten blev det heltid och provanställning.  Från Februari 2009 blev jag fast anställd. Thats it.

Jesper: Jag gick också bryggeriteknik, fast dom hade kortat ner utbildningen ett halvår när jag gick där. Sista halvåret från Maj till December förra året pluggade jag men jobbade halvtid samtidigt här, jag gjorde också min andra praktikperiod här. Jag fick även vara kvar och hjälpa till lite, de sa ganska snabbt att jag kunde få anställning efter skolan då de skulle dra fart på det stora bryggverket och behövde en bryggare till.

Jag har kört heltid ett år i December.

Jesper sliter igen

Jesper sliter

Hur kommer man på att man vill bli bryggare?
Christoffer: För mig var det fler orsaker, men en grej var väl att man slutade dricka öl för ruset. Som gammal punkare drack man allt möjligt, sen blev man intresserad av att se om det fanns annat än stor stark.

Så jag började testa lite öl och kände samtidigt för att göra nåt annat än vården där jag var i många år, jag vet att jag skojade nån gång om att starta ett eget bryggeri men känslan var väl att det aldrig skulle kunna hända.

I den vevan så hittade min dåvarande sambo en annons i tidningen om utbildning i bryggeriteknik, jag drog upp på infoträffen och träffade lärarna. Jag fastnade för det och de verkade se nåt i mig som de gillade,  jag var helt novis medans de flesta andra kom från hembryggande. Jag lärde mig massor av dom och givetvis även av Håge och Berit.

Det är fortfarande svårt att förstå att jag är där jag är, även nu efter 5 år om jag ska vara ärlig. Det är fortfarande skitkul!

Jesper: Jag har haft öl-intresse ganska länge och såg på stor stark som rätt tråkigt i längden, även om man ju givetvis haft den tiden med haha.

Den stora förändringen blev när jag började på Systembolaget, när jag snackade med kollegorna där förstod jag att öl kan smaka så mycket bättre än det jag var van vid. När jag jobbat där en tid och fått upp intresset för olika öltyper började jag undra varför det blir sån skillnad, då började jag läsa om vad är det som gör att en öl blir som den blir.

Då kände jag att det var riktigt intressant och började även brygga hemma, efter ett halvår som hemmabryggare hade jag känslan att det skulle vara jävligt kul att utbilda sig till bryggare.  Jag började kolla utbildningar och hittade bryggeriteknik, tyvärr hade ansökningstiden precis gått ut så jag fick vänta ett år till..

Det måste ha varit sjukt jobbigt?

Jesper: Ja riktigt irriterande! Roligt samtidigt då jag i den vevan gick med i Källarknut som är den hembryggarförening Christoffer nämnde tidigare. Då fick jag kontakt med Christoffer samtidigt som jag fick ett år att lära mig mer och ta lärdom från de andra medlemmarna på Källarknut.

Så till skillnad mot Christoffer som precis hittat intresset så hade jag bryggt hemma och var väl föreberedd innan utbildningen, jag kunde plugga i 2 dagar och brygga i 4 vilket var riktigt skönt.

Man kan säga att det är tack vare jobbet på Systembolaget mitt intresse togs vidare, det var lite så att man utgick från färgen på ölen i vad man gillade. Många kollegor som kunde väldigt mycket som lyfte upp mitt intresse.

Rätt fascinerande det där med färg på ölen, många man hör som säger att det är gott med ”mörkt öl”.

Christoffer: Folk går väldigt mycket på färg, när vi är på festivaler kommer många fram och vill ha nåt ljust för att man blir så mätt av mörk öl. Vi försöker alltid peta in en schysst porter, svart IPA eller liknande för att visa att färgen inte är så viktig.

Just det där är kul när man är på Bishop och hör personalen få den där frågan om en stor stark, en ljus öl och så vidare. Otroligt skoj att höra hur snyggt de löser det.

Om vi återgår till er herrar, vad är det bästa med att vara bryggare?

Christoffer: Det är kreativiteten, som exempel kan vi ta att man dricker en god öl och man vet att man kan göra en liknande eller bättre.

Det är kul när man sliter en hel dag och en månad senare tar man ut provet ur tanken och det är så gott och fint, eller att gå ner till Bishop och ta en Örebro Bitter och känna att detta har jag gjort.

Responsen från folk som kommer fram och säger att ölen var jättegod och pekar på vad som var gott, då växer man.

Jesper: Jag håller verkligen med, det är som Christoffer säger när man får testa sina egna grejer och känna att vi har gjort ett riktigt bra jobb.

Likaså om vi går vidare på det Christoffer sa, när man dricker en öl och känner att man vill göra nåt liknande. Då får man forska i smaker och hur de gjort för att få fram dom med mera, dessa saker är svinkul.

Jag gillar också den stora frihet vi har här, vi planerar vår egen tid och arbetsdag.  Det kommer in på den kreativitet Christoffer pratade om, vi  är delaktiga i processen från start till mål.

Christoffer: Sen är ju det roliga att man bryggt öl i alla tider, en sysselsättning med anor.  Just här gör vi ett riktigt hantverk, det gör att man kan vara stolt som arbetare.

Vem är det som bestämmer när ni tar fram nya öl, tar ni besluten själva om smak och form?

Christoffer: Vi gör det mesta kollektivt, jag har själv gjort några recept som kaffe-öl till exempel. Vi driver det gemensamt och pratar om det, vad vill vi ha och vad saknar vi?

Sen kan någon vara mer drivande, men besluten tas kollektivt.  Det är så vi jobbar inom bryggeriet.

Närke etiketter

Närke etiketter

När vi pratar smaker så har ni ju haft ett gäng sköna öl, Hej! Jag heter Hampus, Gransus och favoriten Bävern som exempel.  Är alla dessa baserade på galna idèer eller finns det nåt annat bakom?

Christoffer: Det är kopplat till anor och traditioner, dom öl vi har gjort med örter och kryddor är gamla traditionella öl.

Även bävern?

Christoffer: Nej, bävern är nog mer sprit med några droppar i pavan till älgjakten Norrland. hehe

Hur kommer man fram till att göra en öl på till exempel bävergäll, ser man det som ett galet experiment?

Jesper: Just bävern är lite speciell och var en knasig idé som Håge fick från början.

Christoffer: Det kommer från att man kryddar brännvin och varför ska man inte likväl krydda öl? Det är lite tankegången..

Jesper: Precis!  Gransus, Skvatt GALEn och de andra örtölen är baserade på de traditionella kryddor man använde innan man hade humle uppe i Norden.

Vi gör det förvisso på ett modernt sätt eftersom vi har en större kunskap i allt som ligger bakom bryggningen och brygger inte som man gjorde då ute i obygden.

Sen har vi även en bok från 50-60 talet skriven av en professor i Uppsala som vi får mycket information och idéer av när det gäller traditionella öl-kryddor.  Jag tittar också på nätet på sidor med information om svenska kryddor och örter, i slutändan handlar det om smaker och hur du ska få in dessa i ditt öl.

Hur ser skapandet ut, kommer man på att man vill göra en svart IPA och snickrar efter det eller utgår man från tillgången på vissa råvaror?

Christoffer: Vi sätter ölstilen och smakerna utifrån vad man vill ha för öl, oftast är det idè och smakerna som sätter receptet.

Vi gjorde nyligen ”Gnällbältarn” till Örebro Ölcafé och då satte vi oss ner och pratade om hur vill vi att det ska smaka och vad sa vi på mötet med grabbarna från caféet?  Det ska funka till husmanskost, då ska det vara lite maltigare men vi vill fortfarande ha en humleprofil.

Där specar vi ner smakerna och sen utifrån det börjar vi plocka råvarorna för att skapa den ölen.

Christoffer sliter

Christoffer sliter

Berätta lite kort om hur en bryggdag ser ut.

Jesper: När vi brygger börjar vi vid 06:00 så man kommer igång och får gå hem i hyfsad tid. Vi har förberett varmt vatten och färdigkrossad malt inför bryggning, det första vi gör är att blanda malt och vatten för att mäska in. Det ska stå en timme, då förbereder vi lite rengöring av ledningar som vi ska pumpa ölen i och sen fikar vi lite. Ibland ute på lastkajen då det ska vara extra trevligt.

Under dagen sen så är det en av oss som sköter bryggningen, håller koll på lakningen, temperaturen och sockerhalten i vörten så det inte händer nåt konstigt och man kommer dit man ska.

Den som inte sköter bryggningen och de andra förbereder jäsrum genom att göra rent karen ordentligt och så där. Det funkar att brygga på 2 personer, är vi 3 så blir det lite lugnare och nån kan ta hand om de andra saker som pockar på.

Dagen rullar på, vi försöker äta lunch under tiden det kokar. Det går inte alltid, beror lite på hur mycket man behöver göra under koket, om man ska i humle och så där. Brygger vi på stora bryggverket så äter vi efter kylningen av vörten, då har det kokat klart och vi kyler det och pumpar in i jäskaret.

Vi kyler genom att pumpa genom plattkylen, kallvatten i ena änden och varm vört i andra och får ut kall vört och varmt vatten. Vi sparar då varmvattnet till dagen efter för att spara energi.

Efter det är det i med jästen och städa, eventuellt också att förbereda morgondagens bryggning.

Då vi är ett litet bryggeri är det även mycket att hålla koll på utöver bryggning, leveranser till pubar med mera.

Jesper sliter

Jesper sliter igen

Skiljer sig processen beroende av vilken öl ni brygger?

Det är ganska lika processer i grunden, skogsölen är lite mer meckiga då det oftast är konstiga saker man ska ha i koket. Rensa en-kvistar och liknande blir en del i tillverkningen som exempel…

Hur döper ni ölen då? Örebro Bitter känns rätt genialt som exempel.

Jesper: Hehe, ibland är det väl genomtänkt och ibland är det bara en dålig idè.

Christoffer: Många namn kommer upp spontant, det är väldigt sällan det är så genomtänkt. Många öl har ett namn under bryggningen och ett annat när det är klart.

Ta till exempel Skvatt GALEn hur kom det till?

Skvatt galen kommer sig av att det är lite skvattram, Myrica Gale (som är pors på latin) och lite en.)

Jesper: Det kanske är ett av de mer genomtänkta namnen…

Christoffer: Ja på sätt och vis är det ju det. Gällande Örebro Bitter så var det inte ens meningen att det skulle vara komiskt, det är en bitter ale från Örebro. I Karlstad har de jättekul åt det, sen kom vår slogan ”Du blir vad du dricker – Örebro Bitter” för några år sen.

Ofta så kommer det av råvaror eller annat, K’ll n v fn d vll är ett annat exempel där Rolf en av delägarna slängde ur sig ”kalla den va fan du vill”. Vi tog bort vokalerna och det blir jätteroligt då folk får klura till på hur man säger det.

Jesper: Ibland kan det också vara att man kommer på ett bra ölnamn först, sen tittar man på öltypen.

Så, nu har vi avhandlat  hur man kan bli bryggare samt hur man gör en bra öl och massor annat,  I del 2 kommer vi bland annat gå in på musik och Örebro som ölstad.

Foto: Alexander Nätterlund

 

FÖLJ OSS!

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